0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Dear viewer, these subtitles were generated by a machine via the service Trint and therefore are (very) buggy. If you are capable, please help us to create good quality subtitles: https://c3subtitles.de/talk/1394 Thanks! 1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,549 Salutations Congress. 2 00:00:21,550 --> 00:00:22,899 Nice of you to show up. 3 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:24,699 I'm very glad to be here. 4 00:00:24,700 --> 00:00:26,889 I'm Linda Todaro and I can't see 5 00:00:26,890 --> 00:00:28,959 you anymore. Very good. 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,749 I'm usually of findable 7 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:34,239 at the Acme Labs assembly 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,699 and I have 9 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:38,859 come to you to talk about 10 00:00:38,860 --> 00:00:39,969 gender. 11 00:00:39,970 --> 00:00:41,889 I know. Interesting topic, right? 12 00:00:41,890 --> 00:00:44,049 So a couple of things about 13 00:00:44,050 --> 00:00:46,269 me, I am many things among 14 00:00:46,270 --> 00:00:48,459 them nonbinary and master 15 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:50,409 of science in intelligent systems 16 00:00:50,410 --> 00:00:52,989 currently. So my background is in 17 00:00:52,990 --> 00:00:55,329 computer science, currently 18 00:00:55,330 --> 00:00:56,289 a Ph.D. 19 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:58,359 at the University 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,939 of Ellingham, 21 00:01:00,940 --> 00:01:03,219 and I also do science 22 00:01:03,220 --> 00:01:05,769 labs. And basically, this is 23 00:01:05,770 --> 00:01:08,589 just another one of those for me, 24 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:11,049 and I've been doing 25 00:01:11,050 --> 00:01:13,269 this for roughly 26 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:15,459 while I've been pondering this topic 27 00:01:15,460 --> 00:01:16,839 for roughly 10 years. 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,039 That doesn't make me necessarily an 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,529 expert, but at least 30 00:01:20,530 --> 00:01:22,359 it makes me enough of an expert so that I 31 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,069 think I can stand up here and tell you 32 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:25,270 something, OK? 33 00:01:27,010 --> 00:01:27,969 Why is this talk? 34 00:01:27,970 --> 00:01:30,969 This talk is about this exact thing. 35 00:01:30,970 --> 00:01:33,129 We this is a 36 00:01:33,130 --> 00:01:35,079 form that a good friend of mine who 37 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,029 wanted to partake in a scientific study 38 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:38,319 had to fill out. 39 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:39,999 And it's in German. 40 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,139 I'll translate. 41 00:01:41,140 --> 00:01:43,209 It's a question on a scientific 42 00:01:43,210 --> 00:01:44,949 survey that asks you for your gender, and 43 00:01:44,950 --> 00:01:47,889 it gives four options male, female, 44 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:50,499 other and no answer. 45 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:52,989 And while that is not technically 46 00:01:52,990 --> 00:01:55,239 the worst thing you can do, it was 47 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,429 the motivation of for 48 00:01:57,430 --> 00:01:59,769 asking myself of how can we do 49 00:01:59,770 --> 00:02:01,869 better in this type 50 00:02:01,870 --> 00:02:03,069 of situation? 51 00:02:03,070 --> 00:02:05,349 So this is a talk about 52 00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:08,228 our responsibilities as software 53 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:10,388 craftspeople, what we can 54 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:12,489 do to reflect these 55 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:15,159 things and what responsibilities 56 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,499 we have and how the tech 57 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:19,809 itself by itself, just 58 00:02:19,810 --> 00:02:21,879 by the virtue of being 59 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,499 tech is not neutral. 60 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:26,709 There there's some contact notes I want 61 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:29,229 to hit on first. 62 00:02:29,230 --> 00:02:31,719 This talk will deal with descriptions 63 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,089 of transmis here, so hatred against trans 64 00:02:34,090 --> 00:02:36,159 people, intimacy and 65 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,569 involuntary surgery. 66 00:02:37,570 --> 00:02:39,129 If that's not something you want to deal 67 00:02:39,130 --> 00:02:41,289 with, there will be a recording 68 00:02:41,290 --> 00:02:43,089 if you want to see this at a better time 69 00:02:43,090 --> 00:02:44,090 for you. 70 00:02:44,890 --> 00:02:47,079 And otherwise, I want to follow roughly 71 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,080 this 72 00:02:49,150 --> 00:02:50,379 the split. 73 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:52,479 I want to do one part education, 74 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,969 one part form design advice 75 00:02:54,970 --> 00:02:56,679 and one part fun. 76 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,619 Because even though it is the year 2019 77 00:02:59,620 --> 00:03:01,749 and you really think that by now, 78 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:03,729 the basics would be down, you still 79 00:03:03,730 --> 00:03:05,799 sometimes get forms on the internet 80 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,819 like these. 81 00:03:09,370 --> 00:03:11,799 I must say at this point, none of these 82 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,989 screen grabs that I will show you are 83 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:15,129 made up. 84 00:03:15,130 --> 00:03:17,529 I have done exactly zero of them. 85 00:03:17,530 --> 00:03:19,479 They were all found somewhere on the 86 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,480 internet. 87 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:23,139 OK, a few things. 88 00:03:23,140 --> 00:03:24,490 This talk is not. 89 00:03:25,540 --> 00:03:27,849 This talk is not an invitation to debate 90 00:03:27,850 --> 00:03:30,159 the human rights of people, especially 91 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,199 trans people or people in a different 92 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,359 culture. So 93 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,039 if you want to yell about attack 94 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,709 helicopters and please, 95 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:40,629 there's your fish, do your extremely 96 00:03:40,630 --> 00:03:42,849 unfunny jokes somewhere else. 97 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,489 All right. 98 00:03:45,490 --> 00:03:47,859 So why are forms important? 99 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:50,109 Why is it important that we deal 100 00:03:50,110 --> 00:03:51,189 with this at all? 101 00:03:52,630 --> 00:03:55,119 Well, if you do sloppy work, 102 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,739 it hurts a lot of people. 103 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:59,049 First of all, your data if 104 00:03:59,050 --> 00:04:01,989 your input form for anything. 105 00:04:01,990 --> 00:04:04,149 But in this talk, we'll use gender as 106 00:04:04,150 --> 00:04:05,169 an example. 107 00:04:05,170 --> 00:04:07,509 But if your input form doesn't 108 00:04:07,510 --> 00:04:09,819 let people input the correct form 109 00:04:09,820 --> 00:04:11,379 or the correct answer to a given 110 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:13,899 question, then that hurts your data 111 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:16,479 because you will get incorrect data. 112 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,739 It hurts your users. 113 00:04:17,740 --> 00:04:19,719 And I can tell you from first, second and 114 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,879 third hand experience that it is 115 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,769 really, really, really frustrating. 116 00:04:23,770 --> 00:04:25,299 If you're supposed to tell somebody 117 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:26,949 something about yourself and the correct 118 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:28,179 answer is not an option, 119 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,479 and it also hurts yourself because 120 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,429 someone somewhere down the line, these 121 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:35,739 people will complain to you or not use 122 00:04:35,740 --> 00:04:37,419 your service when they otherwise would 123 00:04:37,420 --> 00:04:38,349 have. 124 00:04:38,350 --> 00:04:40,539 So nobody likes this extra 125 00:04:40,540 --> 00:04:42,369 frustration. Let's see how we can do 126 00:04:42,370 --> 00:04:43,370 better. 127 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,229 That brings me to my conclusion slide, 128 00:04:47,230 --> 00:04:49,689 which I like to put in front of. 129 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:51,760 The central points are as follows 130 00:04:53,020 --> 00:04:55,059 Make the model fit the user. 131 00:04:55,060 --> 00:04:57,309 You are modeling your user if you know 132 00:04:57,310 --> 00:04:59,649 it or not, and it's important 133 00:04:59,650 --> 00:05:01,929 that you make your model fit the actual 134 00:05:01,930 --> 00:05:04,029 users in the world and don't 135 00:05:04,030 --> 00:05:06,069 chuck any model out there and say that 136 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:08,350 the user has to conform to that. 137 00:05:09,820 --> 00:05:12,129 The next one is humans 138 00:05:12,130 --> 00:05:13,509 are moving targets. 139 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:14,709 Humans change. 140 00:05:14,710 --> 00:05:15,969 Their names change. 141 00:05:15,970 --> 00:05:18,549 Their gender sometimes changes its. 142 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:20,889 Really, really, really difficult to just 143 00:05:20,890 --> 00:05:23,079 get everything right the first time. 144 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,449 And so we change 145 00:05:25,450 --> 00:05:27,189 and your model should reflect that. 146 00:05:28,810 --> 00:05:30,519 Of course, the easiest thing to do is 147 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,589 just not ask a 148 00:05:32,590 --> 00:05:34,719 certain question because with that, you 149 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,879 make the fewest mistakes. 150 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,309 But sometimes if you do ask something, 151 00:05:39,310 --> 00:05:42,309 be at least very precise and 152 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:44,409 upfront about what you're using the data 153 00:05:44,410 --> 00:05:46,629 for, just so people know which 154 00:05:46,630 --> 00:05:48,040 is the correct answer to give you. 155 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,739 All right. Now that we got the boring 156 00:05:50,740 --> 00:05:52,569 stuff out of the way, we can talk about 157 00:05:52,570 --> 00:05:53,919 the fun stuff. 158 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,019 The talk is titled Hello, I'm 159 00:05:56,020 --> 00:05:58,329 Your Edge case, and that is based 160 00:05:58,330 --> 00:06:00,369 upon mine and others. 161 00:06:00,370 --> 00:06:01,869 Some of my friend's experiences at 162 00:06:01,870 --> 00:06:04,059 university when whenever we wanted 163 00:06:04,060 --> 00:06:06,429 to sign up for something like a sports 164 00:06:06,430 --> 00:06:08,679 club or a student 165 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,659 union or something whenever there was 166 00:06:10,660 --> 00:06:13,119 like a little field that says, 167 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,769 Oh well, please select your gender, male 168 00:06:14,770 --> 00:06:15,789 or female. 169 00:06:15,790 --> 00:06:17,979 Then we would not be able 170 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:19,959 to give the correct answer, and we would 171 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,299 have to go talk to an actual person. 172 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:24,159 And the introduction, usually when 173 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,079 something along the lines of Hello, I'm 174 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,909 the person that doesn't fit your system 175 00:06:27,910 --> 00:06:29,709 or hello, I'm your edge case 176 00:06:31,060 --> 00:06:33,309 and the format the 177 00:06:33,310 --> 00:06:35,379 rest of the talk will take is 178 00:06:35,380 --> 00:06:37,120 that we will go through some of the. 179 00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:42,669 Maybe incorrect or 180 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:45,129 maybe a bit biased, or 181 00:06:45,130 --> 00:06:46,299 maybe a bit. 182 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:48,369 Well, let's 183 00:06:48,370 --> 00:06:50,469 say updatable functions 184 00:06:50,470 --> 00:06:52,689 or preconceptions you might 185 00:06:52,690 --> 00:06:54,759 have and then talk a bit 186 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,399 about the facts and about the problem 187 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,799 and see what we can learn from that. 188 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,079 The first one is maybe the most popular 189 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,069 one. 190 00:07:03,070 --> 00:07:05,110 It's there's only two genders. 191 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,609 Well, some 192 00:07:09,610 --> 00:07:11,259 people don't even manage that. 193 00:07:12,370 --> 00:07:14,499 And again, these are not 194 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:17,109 made up of some people apparently 195 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:18,639 still believe that, well, there's just 196 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,829 one. And it's male, so 197 00:07:20,830 --> 00:07:22,989 you're all the same. 198 00:07:22,990 --> 00:07:25,389 I mean, while I appreciate 199 00:07:25,390 --> 00:07:27,459 generally that the the 200 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:29,529 the the the 201 00:07:29,530 --> 00:07:31,749 impetus into the direction of everyone is 202 00:07:31,750 --> 00:07:33,579 everyone being equal. 203 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:35,799 I don't appreciate just everybody calls 204 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,779 it being called male instead. 205 00:07:37,780 --> 00:07:40,029 But no, seriously, 206 00:07:40,030 --> 00:07:42,159 there's a there's a lot 207 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,019 of non-binary people that are neither 208 00:07:44,020 --> 00:07:45,819 male nor female. 209 00:07:45,820 --> 00:07:48,009 Non-binary people have been part 210 00:07:48,010 --> 00:07:50,259 of almost every culture for 211 00:07:50,260 --> 00:07:52,629 almost as long as we have records 212 00:07:52,630 --> 00:07:53,559 going back. 213 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,269 This is not a new phenomenon. 214 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:57,849 This is not just a trend, and 215 00:07:57,850 --> 00:08:00,069 it's gotten so far to the point 216 00:08:00,070 --> 00:08:02,409 that even some countries you can see here 217 00:08:02,410 --> 00:08:04,509 have started adding legal 218 00:08:04,510 --> 00:08:06,639 recognition to non-binary genders as 219 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,039 well, including 220 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,199 Germany in some 221 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,389 sense. We'll get to that a bit later on. 222 00:08:13,390 --> 00:08:14,799 But the list is there. 223 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,929 It's not very short and it's only ever 224 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:17,889 getting longer. 225 00:08:17,890 --> 00:08:20,109 So maybe don't 226 00:08:20,110 --> 00:08:21,789 store gender in a Boolean anymore. 227 00:08:21,790 --> 00:08:23,709 I beg of you, please don't. 228 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,929 It is just not enough. 229 00:08:25,930 --> 00:08:28,239 It can only hold two things when there's 230 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,699 clearly more than two things. 231 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:33,339 OK, now that we've done that, 232 00:08:33,340 --> 00:08:35,499 the next step that somebody 233 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,599 might take is OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, 234 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,249 I get it. Not to it. 235 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:40,869 Three, Right? Three. 236 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:42,408 That's what you said. That's like male, 237 00:08:42,409 --> 00:08:45,159 female and all of the others 238 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,959 or the other. 239 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,059 So I'll just do three instead that I 240 00:08:49,060 --> 00:08:51,129 can do. And of course, 241 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:54,609 first of all, I would like to ask 242 00:08:54,610 --> 00:08:56,139 of you if you're designing a computer 243 00:08:56,140 --> 00:08:57,909 system and you want to give a third 244 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:59,109 option in gender. 245 00:08:59,110 --> 00:09:01,359 Please, please make sure it's actually 246 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,360 a gender. 247 00:09:03,220 --> 00:09:05,379 This thing was given 248 00:09:05,380 --> 00:09:08,049 where you have female, male and LGBT. 249 00:09:08,050 --> 00:09:10,509 LGBT, of course, stands for lesbian, 250 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:12,969 gay, bisexual and trans, 251 00:09:12,970 --> 00:09:15,459 and none of those genders. 252 00:09:15,460 --> 00:09:17,949 You're trans if your gender doesn't match 253 00:09:17,950 --> 00:09:19,569 the gender you were assigned at birth, 254 00:09:19,570 --> 00:09:20,799 otherwise you're cis. 255 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,419 But it's not a gender in itself. 256 00:09:22,420 --> 00:09:24,399 It's not the third option. 257 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,829 Please, please never do 258 00:09:26,830 --> 00:09:28,329 male, female, trans. 259 00:09:28,330 --> 00:09:30,579 It's it just shows how ignorant 260 00:09:30,580 --> 00:09:31,569 you are. 261 00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:33,609 OK, but if you don't do that, 262 00:09:34,810 --> 00:09:37,119 even some corporations have caught on to 263 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,339 that. There might be more than just 264 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:41,409 those or just three 265 00:09:41,410 --> 00:09:43,839 options of male, female and other. 266 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,659 Tinder has thirty seven by now. 267 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:49,389 And of course, thirty seven is a lot. 268 00:09:49,390 --> 00:09:51,579 But the thing is, is that now 269 00:09:51,580 --> 00:09:52,899 the exact number. 270 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:54,249 And of course, it isn't. 271 00:09:54,250 --> 00:09:56,679 Whenever you get to a finite 272 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,509 number, there will somebody there will be 273 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:00,639 somebody on Earth and probably somebody 274 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,769 within your user base that doesn't fit 275 00:10:02,770 --> 00:10:04,929 into any of those boxes you've laid out. 276 00:10:04,930 --> 00:10:07,239 I mean, just from the thirty seven here, 277 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,969 we also have gender 278 00:10:09,970 --> 00:10:12,339 fluid, and I think this is gender, queer, 279 00:10:12,340 --> 00:10:14,439 sorry, gender, queer and gender fluid 280 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,959 and age, gender and neutral. 281 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,499 And we have by gender transgender. 282 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:22,959 We have poly, gender and transgender 283 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,519 and a range of other non-binary 284 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,659 identities. 285 00:10:25,660 --> 00:10:27,759 And the idea is just 286 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,099 whenever you get 287 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:32,169 to a certain certain finite point, 288 00:10:33,250 --> 00:10:35,559 it is always some somebody 289 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,779 who is also beyond that. 290 00:10:37,780 --> 00:10:39,669 Don't just put out a limited number of 291 00:10:39,670 --> 00:10:42,639 boxes and say everybody fit into that, 292 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,629 OK? 293 00:10:43,630 --> 00:10:45,759 And the next step, of course, would be 294 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,739 OK. You said 37 and then you said some 295 00:10:47,740 --> 00:10:50,499 others. I'll just build all of those. 296 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:52,689 And is the interactive 297 00:10:52,690 --> 00:10:54,559 part of the talk. 298 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,439 I don't know if we can get the room 299 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,149 lights a bit up. 300 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:59,979 If not, that's also not probably whoever 301 00:10:59,980 --> 00:11:02,229 here has heard of something 302 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:03,159 called a demi boy. 303 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,769 That's a gender identity who has, 304 00:11:05,770 --> 00:11:08,379 um, that's around 305 00:11:08,380 --> 00:11:10,989 half a dozen people that I can see, 306 00:11:10,990 --> 00:11:13,299 and there's at least 100 people 307 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:15,849 here. So that's a perfect illustration 308 00:11:15,850 --> 00:11:18,369 of why you would need a text box 309 00:11:18,370 --> 00:11:20,469 because you don't know all of the 310 00:11:20,470 --> 00:11:22,569 possible answers that you can give. 311 00:11:22,570 --> 00:11:24,849 And for that, this slide 312 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:27,189 is gives a, 313 00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:28,419 you know, it's a reasonable 314 00:11:28,420 --> 00:11:30,009 approximation, and it's also a little bit 315 00:11:30,010 --> 00:11:32,289 of a humorous take on something extremely 316 00:11:32,290 --> 00:11:34,419 serious. Human humans 317 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:35,709 still change. 318 00:11:35,710 --> 00:11:37,899 Humans are still a moving target, 319 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:39,609 even if you know about all the. 320 00:11:39,610 --> 00:11:42,369 Genders that exist today, 321 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:44,139 you might want to add another one 322 00:11:44,140 --> 00:11:46,599 tomorrow because you get a new user 323 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,639 that has that gender. 324 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,919 And for that, 325 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,299 it would be ideal if you can have 326 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:55,389 a a text box where 327 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:57,669 people can just add their own gender. 328 00:11:57,670 --> 00:11:59,379 It's not a statistical outlier. 329 00:11:59,380 --> 00:12:01,479 If enough people do, it is, of course, a 330 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,469 little bit of a funny take. 331 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:04,659 But it's also an 332 00:12:04,660 --> 00:12:06,819 invitation. If you if you 333 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:09,669 are non-binary yourself and you 334 00:12:09,670 --> 00:12:12,099 feel safe in a certain space, please. 335 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:14,229 If somebody gives you a text field, 336 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:16,599 do enter your true gender. 337 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,729 Because if, if more people 338 00:12:18,730 --> 00:12:21,339 do it, it will create more visibility. 339 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:22,389 All right. 340 00:12:22,390 --> 00:12:24,609 So from that, we've seen that maybe 341 00:12:24,610 --> 00:12:26,919 don't store gender in an enum either. 342 00:12:28,030 --> 00:12:29,080 OK. Next up, 343 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:32,469 this is also a bit of a contentious 344 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:34,839 subject, but a lot of people 345 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,909 come to me and say, Well, I learned 346 00:12:36,910 --> 00:12:38,409 in school that there's only two 347 00:12:38,410 --> 00:12:40,359 biological sexes, right? 348 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,429 Well, you might have learned that 349 00:12:42,430 --> 00:12:44,979 in school. I won't dispute that, but 350 00:12:44,980 --> 00:12:46,629 I can tell you from my side of things 351 00:12:46,630 --> 00:12:47,979 that I once learned in school that 352 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:49,690 there's no gravity in space. 353 00:12:51,070 --> 00:12:53,829 Well, that is obviously wrong, 354 00:12:53,830 --> 00:12:55,329 even though it's a simplification, 355 00:12:55,330 --> 00:12:57,190 something that my younger self 356 00:12:58,270 --> 00:13:00,429 was or needed to be told. 357 00:13:00,430 --> 00:13:02,499 So I couldn't understand 358 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:04,749 or have my understanding 359 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:05,679 move forward a bit. 360 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:08,019 So I can then later understand 361 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:10,029 the more complexities that, of course, 362 00:13:10,030 --> 00:13:11,709 there's gravity in space, but it behaves 363 00:13:11,710 --> 00:13:13,989 differently than the one, you know, 364 00:13:15,010 --> 00:13:17,139 and it in same 365 00:13:17,140 --> 00:13:18,909 things goes with biological 366 00:13:18,910 --> 00:13:21,069 configurations. And as that relates to 367 00:13:21,070 --> 00:13:23,739 gender, there's something called intersex 368 00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:26,139 people. And that is, if you are born 369 00:13:26,140 --> 00:13:28,419 with any configuration 370 00:13:28,420 --> 00:13:30,279 of your biology, that might be your 371 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,709 gonads, that might be yours, 372 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:34,029 that might be your chromosomes. 373 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:35,499 That might be a lot of things. 374 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:37,869 Your hormone levels a bunch 375 00:13:37,870 --> 00:13:40,209 and any of these can fluctuate 376 00:13:40,210 --> 00:13:42,009 so that you don't fit into the two 377 00:13:42,010 --> 00:13:43,929 classical categories. 378 00:13:43,930 --> 00:13:46,119 And if you 379 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,249 are, if you are born such, 380 00:13:48,250 --> 00:13:49,839 then you might find yourself into the 381 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,359 label. Intersex and 382 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,729 intersex people don't necessarily be 383 00:13:54,730 --> 00:13:56,799 our don't necessarily become 384 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,360 non-binary automatically. 385 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:02,049 They are not non-binary automatically, 386 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:04,059 but some of them might claim that label. 387 00:14:04,060 --> 00:14:04,959 It's up to them. 388 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,509 Of course, gender is something 389 00:14:07,510 --> 00:14:09,669 you know best what you are. 390 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:11,739 So please just let 391 00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:12,879 people talk for themselves 392 00:14:14,470 --> 00:14:16,179 while I'm on the topic. 393 00:14:16,180 --> 00:14:18,249 Also, there's a very serious thing 394 00:14:18,250 --> 00:14:21,249 that I want to mention where 395 00:14:21,250 --> 00:14:23,319 a lot of intersex people, when they 396 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,589 are born and people notice that 397 00:14:26,590 --> 00:14:28,689 maybe their genitals don't conform to 398 00:14:28,690 --> 00:14:31,359 one of the two classical categories, 399 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,569 then people are still being 400 00:14:34,570 --> 00:14:36,789 subjected to unnecessary surgeries 401 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:39,159 like there's no medical 402 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,319 need for them. But just to make 403 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,079 it easier for the person, 404 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,269 a functioning set of testes as a removed 405 00:14:46,270 --> 00:14:49,329 or the clitoris is reduced. 406 00:14:49,330 --> 00:14:51,219 And that is still happening today in 407 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:53,679 Germany, too, and in the US and 408 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,269 in a lot of other places. 409 00:14:55,270 --> 00:14:57,669 And if you're maybe social 410 00:14:57,670 --> 00:15:00,159 justice adjacent and 411 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,139 looking for a good cause to spend some 412 00:15:02,140 --> 00:15:04,779 time in, maybe read up on this and 413 00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:06,909 learn about that and see how 414 00:15:06,910 --> 00:15:08,469 you can affect that. It's definitely 415 00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:10,839 something extremely troubling 416 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,069 to me. 417 00:15:12,070 --> 00:15:14,379 OK, so biology, 418 00:15:14,380 --> 00:15:16,359 maybe bimodal, that is the distribution 419 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,399 that Mesa has two peaks with the most 420 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,559 common with the most common outcomes, 421 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,499 but it's definitely not binary either. 422 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:24,500 OK. 423 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,849 Also, you probably don't need to know 424 00:15:27,850 --> 00:15:30,399 unless you're a doctor and 425 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,709 making some input 426 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:34,779 form for very specific 427 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:36,939 medical procedures, then you probably 428 00:15:36,940 --> 00:15:38,469 don't need to know if you're just a 429 00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:40,419 social media site or something. 430 00:15:40,420 --> 00:15:42,549 You do not need to know your uses 431 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:43,550 biology. 432 00:15:45,650 --> 00:15:47,809 Yeah, well, this I also hear 433 00:15:47,810 --> 00:15:49,879 a lot there's 434 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,769 so many options now you've you said 435 00:15:51,770 --> 00:15:53,989 there's at least 37 or might be more that 436 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:55,369 sounds like work. 437 00:15:55,370 --> 00:15:58,159 And sure, but 438 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,629 I don't buy that. 439 00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:01,789 There's a here's 440 00:16:01,790 --> 00:16:04,579 a form from the German military 441 00:16:04,580 --> 00:16:06,709 interest union or 442 00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:09,109 something, and they give you two options 443 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:11,329 for gender and they give you seventy one 444 00:16:11,330 --> 00:16:13,369 options for academic title. 445 00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:15,199 I could read them all to you, but I 446 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,179 literally do not have enough time left in 447 00:16:17,180 --> 00:16:18,180 the talk. 448 00:16:18,950 --> 00:16:21,049 And with that, I just don't believe 449 00:16:21,050 --> 00:16:22,759 you that it's too much work if you do 450 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,649 something like this. 451 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:26,839 So if you don't want to deal with 452 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,939 the whole thing BS, please be advised 453 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:31,309 that not asking is always an option. 454 00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:33,439 You can always just not ask about 455 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,339 it. 456 00:16:34,340 --> 00:16:36,439 The information is either needed or not 457 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,339 act accordingly. 458 00:16:37,340 --> 00:16:39,259 If it's needed, get the right one. 459 00:16:39,260 --> 00:16:41,059 If it's not needed, maybe just don't ask. 460 00:16:42,170 --> 00:16:43,849 Some people also say, Oh well, I'll just 461 00:16:43,850 --> 00:16:46,099 ask for preferred salutation and inferred 462 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:47,100 gender from that. 463 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,600 Yeah. 464 00:16:52,430 --> 00:16:53,629 Spoiler alert. 465 00:16:53,630 --> 00:16:55,369 Guessing gender doesn't work. 466 00:16:56,780 --> 00:16:58,939 Not from name, not from face, not from 467 00:16:58,940 --> 00:17:00,499 the tweets from you. 468 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:02,659 There's nothing that you can guess 469 00:17:02,660 --> 00:17:04,549 gender from, except a field where the 470 00:17:04,550 --> 00:17:06,169 user can input the agenda. 471 00:17:06,170 --> 00:17:08,239 And so you will get 472 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,189 this wrong. Even if there are some online 473 00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:12,318 services who tell you that they can, they 474 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:14,389 only give you a best guess. 475 00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:16,489 And that's usually not enough if you 476 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:17,838 want to do salutations. 477 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,299 Sure. More power to you, but 478 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:23,239 at least include, like, a neutral option. 479 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,588 This is one from lobby control. 480 00:17:24,589 --> 00:17:25,589 I like that a lot. 481 00:17:26,750 --> 00:17:28,219 They have two options and they have a 482 00:17:28,220 --> 00:17:30,259 third one that just says hello in German. 483 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:33,529 And the English language also has 484 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:35,659 mics for not Mr Not Mrs, 485 00:17:35,660 --> 00:17:36,679 not Miss, but mixed. 486 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,729 That's gender neutral is in the 487 00:17:37,730 --> 00:17:38,959 dictionary. 488 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,629 But when whatever language you're using, 489 00:17:41,630 --> 00:17:43,849 hello just works everywhere. 490 00:17:43,850 --> 00:17:45,979 OK. Quick case study in the case 491 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:47,029 and you're working in Germany in 492 00:17:47,030 --> 00:17:49,279 particular, we have for 493 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,799 gender markers and our passports. 494 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,139 We have numerous options in biology 495 00:17:54,140 --> 00:17:56,839 and we have countless options in gender. 496 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,029 And I wanted to see, OK, political 497 00:17:59,030 --> 00:18:01,549 parties, how do they do this? 498 00:18:01,550 --> 00:18:03,379 Who have them shapes up the best? 499 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:05,689 And well, to nobody's surprise, 500 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:08,629 the Social Democrats do it the worst. 501 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:10,789 They just ask for binary gender, 502 00:18:10,790 --> 00:18:11,749 nothing to do about it. 503 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:13,819 And since Germany has the third entry, 504 00:18:15,020 --> 00:18:17,209 I'm pretty sure that's illegal or 505 00:18:17,210 --> 00:18:18,979 at least legally questionable by now. 506 00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:20,239 So. Hmm. 507 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,249 Next up, also, to nobody's surprise, the 508 00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:24,499 two conservative parties just ask 509 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:26,499 for binary salutation. 510 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:27,500 That's not very good. 511 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:30,919 We have the free Democrats 512 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,409 that ask for male, female or diverse. 513 00:18:33,410 --> 00:18:35,539 At least they mention all of them. 514 00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:38,029 The Green Party has male, female, 515 00:18:38,030 --> 00:18:40,519 entire or diverse or no answer, 516 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,469 which is basically OK. 517 00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:44,769 And the Left Party, the socialists, 518 00:18:44,770 --> 00:18:46,459 they don't ask at all, which I think is 519 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:48,319 really the best way the empty model makes 520 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,299 the fewest mistakes. 521 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:51,410 Yes, thank you. 522 00:18:53,060 --> 00:18:54,060 OK. 523 00:18:54,590 --> 00:18:57,019 My time is running to an end, but 524 00:18:57,020 --> 00:18:59,149 you kind of also came for this 525 00:18:59,150 --> 00:19:00,679 next slide. No, seriously. 526 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,959 How do you ask people for their gender? 527 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,929 So here's my best take before asking. 528 00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:08,719 Make sure you need the information. 529 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,819 Make sure this is the information 530 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:12,349 you need and you're not really asking 531 00:19:12,350 --> 00:19:13,579 something else. 532 00:19:13,580 --> 00:19:15,479 Make sure it's mutable in your model. 533 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,239 Make sure you can change it. 534 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,579 And then just ask 535 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:21,249 either tell them. 536 00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:23,329 Definitely tell them what 537 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:24,969 they need, what you need the answer for 538 00:19:24,970 --> 00:19:26,509 it and definitely tell them 539 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,379 that they can just enter a freeform 540 00:19:30,380 --> 00:19:31,619 answer in a text field. 541 00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:33,649 But then you can give either no options 542 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:35,869 and have everybody use the text field or 543 00:19:35,870 --> 00:19:37,759 give as many as reasonable possible. 544 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,009 That's more than two, and then 545 00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:42,259 also have some text field for the ones 546 00:19:42,260 --> 00:19:43,999 that are not in the boxes listed above. 547 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,939 This is very popular with the target 548 00:19:46,940 --> 00:19:47,940 demographic. 549 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:51,799 I also would very much like that 550 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,239 more seen, even though there's no text 551 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,240 field. 552 00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:56,599 Of course, this applies to other 553 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,600 questions too. 554 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,059 I don't know if you could be Danish, but 555 00:20:02,060 --> 00:20:03,919 apparently you can. 556 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,839 But generally, this is not just gender, 557 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,519 it's not just sexual orientation. 558 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,129 It's also names, addresses 559 00:20:10,130 --> 00:20:11,539 all of these things. 560 00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:13,459 Not everybody has one, even if you think 561 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:15,559 they do. And it can be really, really 562 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,409 complicated once you get down to it. 563 00:20:18,410 --> 00:20:20,839 My conclusion slide is this again, 564 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,579 if you wanted to talk to me again, you 565 00:20:22,580 --> 00:20:24,649 can come up after or meet me at the 566 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:27,139 Acme Labs assembly. 567 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:28,849 Here are some recommendations if you want 568 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:29,779 to read more. 569 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:30,949 That's all I have. 570 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:32,030 Thank you for your attention. 571 00:20:35,790 --> 00:20:37,709 APPLAUSE, applause, applause, applause. 572 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:44,029 And on the left and on the right are the 573 00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:45,919 usual microphones, if there are any 574 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,259 questions from the audience. 575 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:51,379 It's now the time or perhaps from 576 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,569 the internet, so somebody 577 00:20:53,570 --> 00:20:55,309 is running. It's a good sign that kind of 578 00:20:55,310 --> 00:20:56,119 sir. 579 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,120 But um. 580 00:20:59,390 --> 00:21:00,709 Yes. Yes. 581 00:21:00,710 --> 00:21:01,639 Hi. 582 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,199 Hey, ah, is there? 583 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,539 You said that in the beginning 584 00:21:05,540 --> 00:21:07,969 there there were bulletins 585 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:09,739 to store gender, which is not 586 00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:12,349 recommended. Do you have any data on 587 00:21:12,350 --> 00:21:14,329 whether there was a preference to give 588 00:21:14,330 --> 00:21:16,579 the true and the false to male 589 00:21:16,580 --> 00:21:17,809 or female or vice versa? 590 00:21:20,060 --> 00:21:22,579 Well, the thing is, both are false. 591 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:27,709 I don't know what you are. 592 00:21:27,710 --> 00:21:29,419 The thing is, there's not enough answers 593 00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:31,279 in to most polls. 594 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,349 It was just idle curiosity as to whether 595 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:34,350 there is some 596 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,969 preference in the data as 597 00:21:37,970 --> 00:21:40,039 to in which direction 598 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,419 they got it wrong. 599 00:21:41,420 --> 00:21:43,309 My preference is to not give the wrong 600 00:21:43,310 --> 00:21:44,310 answer. 601 00:21:45,290 --> 00:21:46,290 Good. 602 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:48,829 OK, second question. 603 00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:50,899 Or anyone from the internet. 604 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,939 No question that means thanks 605 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:58,519 a lot. Another applause for 606 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,530 Lambda tutorial.